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	<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 01:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by creativebyline</title>
		<link>http://creativebyline.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/why-is-an-outline-required-for-novels/#comment-125</link>
		<dc:creator>creativebyline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea!  We'll get an example of a children's picture book synopsis included on our site.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by Julie Bickford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Julie Bickford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 18:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am mostly interested in why a synopsis is required for children's picture books. These are very short stories. I understand writing a brief summary of what happens, which is exactly what a synopsis is supposed to be, but I would like to see an example of what the first readers are expecting from a picture book synopsis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am mostly interested in why a synopsis is required for children&#8217;s picture books. These are very short stories. I understand writing a brief summary of what happens, which is exactly what a synopsis is supposed to be, but I would like to see an example of what the first readers are expecting from a picture book synopsis.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by John Sawinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sawinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 01:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw your sample outline. Thanks! Now I understand. The confusion seems to be more a matter of terminology: I've typically heard this referred to as a simple chapter synopsis, and your example fits exactly what agents/editors seem to want in a submission package
  • One short paragraph per chapter
  • No subheadings, bullets, lists
  • Main plot and character involvement only, no rationale, explanation of method, etc.
 Keep it brief! . . 
Thanks again
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw your sample outline. Thanks! Now I understand. The confusion seems to be more a matter of terminology: I&#8217;ve typically heard this referred to as a simple chapter synopsis, and your example fits exactly what agents/editors seem to want in a submission package<br />
  • One short paragraph per chapter<br />
  • No subheadings, bullets, lists<br />
  • Main plot and character involvement only, no rationale, explanation of method, etc.<br />
 Keep it brief! . .<br />
Thanks again<br />
John</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by creativebyline</title>
		<link>http://creativebyline.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/why-is-an-outline-required-for-novels/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>creativebyline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for checking back! There is one sample outline posted (we are getting more examples). You have to be logged in to see it. Click on "Support" and then the sample is under "What to submit."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for checking back! There is one sample outline posted (we are getting more examples). You have to be logged in to see it. Click on &#8220;Support&#8221; and then the sample is under &#8220;What to submit.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by John Miller</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 18:11:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still waiting for your example of an outline. It's the outline that is currently causing my package to be marked as "needs improvement". Personally, I have never encountered an agent or publisher who requires a chapter-by-chapter synopsis--until now. I've been told mine is "too long" and reads like "Cliff Notes". I personally feel it is an unnatural way to create a synopsis of a novel; the chapter breaks interrupt the flow.

I think your service has great potential, and was interested to note that Writer Beware is reserving judgment--for now. (I've seen your comments there too.) But, I’m reluctant to invest another $19 (which is a very reasonable fee--if your service does indeed prove worthwhile) until I have a better idea of exactly what you’re looking for.

Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for your example of an outline. It&#8217;s the outline that is currently causing my package to be marked as &#8220;needs improvement&#8221;. Personally, I have never encountered an agent or publisher who requires a chapter-by-chapter synopsis&#8211;until now. I&#8217;ve been told mine is &#8220;too long&#8221; and reads like &#8220;Cliff Notes&#8221;. I personally feel it is an unnatural way to create a synopsis of a novel; the chapter breaks interrupt the flow.</p>
<p>I think your service has great potential, and was interested to note that Writer Beware is reserving judgment&#8211;for now. (I&#8217;ve seen your comments there too.) But, I’m reluctant to invest another $19 (which is a very reasonable fee&#8211;if your service does indeed prove worthwhile) until I have a better idea of exactly what you’re looking for.</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re live! by creativebyline</title>
		<link>http://creativebyline.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/were-live/#comment-120</link>
		<dc:creator>creativebyline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 14:12:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear about losing your book deal, but congratulations on writing a book that’s clearly saleable. It may take a publisher with an ecology specialty to appreciate your book, but we do currently have three editors who are interested in seeing "adult/non-fiction/gardening." Submitting it through Creative Byline may be worth a try. 

The answer to your question is yes, we’re working to add new publishers all the time.  In fact, we have just signed Orange Avenue/Zest Books (orangeavenue.com), a San Francisco-based publisher of fun, smart, edgy young adult books.  Writers who have subscribed to Creative Byline: If you don’t see editors within Creative Byline who are accepting your type of manuscript at the moment, simply select “New Query Package” from your “Overview” page and enter the title and genre. We’ll send you an e-mail alert when an editor looking for your kind of manuscript signs on. (You don’t need to upload the entire query package to get the e-mail alert.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear about losing your book deal, but congratulations on writing a book that’s clearly saleable. It may take a publisher with an ecology specialty to appreciate your book, but we do currently have three editors who are interested in seeing &#8220;adult/non-fiction/gardening.&#8221; Submitting it through Creative Byline may be worth a try. </p>
<p>The answer to your question is yes, we’re working to add new publishers all the time.  In fact, we have just signed Orange Avenue/Zest Books (orangeavenue.com), a San Francisco-based publisher of fun, smart, edgy young adult books.  Writers who have subscribed to Creative Byline: If you don’t see editors within Creative Byline who are accepting your type of manuscript at the moment, simply select “New Query Package” from your “Overview” page and enter the title and genre. We’ll send you an e-mail alert when an editor looking for your kind of manuscript signs on. (You don’t need to upload the entire query package to get the e-mail alert.)</p>
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		<title>Comment on We&#8217;re live! by thornapple</title>
		<link>http://creativebyline.wordpress.com/2007/12/10/were-live/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>thornapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 21:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a book and lost my publisher (and a very easy to work with editor) due to a company restructuring. Now I am looking for a new publisher. But this is an ecologically friendly landscaping book for homeowners; you have no publisher for me. Shall I write some science fiction fantasy instead? I could easily do it, after trying to get the first book published...heh. No, actually, my real question is=WHEN will you have a broader spectrum of publishers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a book and lost my publisher (and a very easy to work with editor) due to a company restructuring. Now I am looking for a new publisher. But this is an ecologically friendly landscaping book for homeowners; you have no publisher for me. Shall I write some science fiction fantasy instead? I could easily do it, after trying to get the first book published&#8230;heh. No, actually, my real question is=WHEN will you have a broader spectrum of publishers?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by creativebyline</title>
		<link>http://creativebyline.wordpress.com/2008/03/05/why-is-an-outline-required-for-novels/#comment-118</link>
		<dc:creator>creativebyline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea! We’ll post an example of a chapter-by-chapter outline shortly. As you’ll see from the example, a few concise sentences for each chapter is exactly what we’re expecting for a work of fiction.

Thanks, too, for your suggestion about first reader feedback and your comments on our service. Apparently there are a lot of writers who feel the same way. In the past two weeks, our number of writer members has doubled!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea! We’ll post an example of a chapter-by-chapter outline shortly. As you’ll see from the example, a few concise sentences for each chapter is exactly what we’re expecting for a work of fiction.</p>
<p>Thanks, too, for your suggestion about first reader feedback and your comments on our service. Apparently there are a lot of writers who feel the same way. In the past two weeks, our number of writer members has doubled!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by John Sawinski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Sawinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 04:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been asked by agents/publishers for only a chapter-by-chapter synopsis for fictional works, generally very short and concise, I'm wrestling a little with structuring what is usually only a couple of sentences into a meaningful set of headings/subheadings per chapter. I see from earlier comments that I'm not alone in this. Could you please post a couple examples somewhere  in the  section so we can get a better sense of the structure and level of detail you're looking for?

By the way, I love the site! I'm all about creating online efficiencies and knocking down roadblocks, which a lot of agents seem to have become these days. Connecting authors directly with editors is a great idea. 

First read feedback from your team was quick, articulate, and included some thoughtful suggestions. I would recommend, however, that readers also drill into more actionable comments, ie: if greater character development is warranted, would the first reader suggest development through dialogue/action rather than description, that sort of thing. If engagement with charcters doesn't come to the reader quickly, where might character development best be placed so as not to disrupt the flow? You get the idea. 

I'm not talking about writing the book for anyone, but broad editorial comments tend to steer younger, more insecure authors into the weeds, and can result in a ton of unnecessary work as well as undesirable edits that detract from aspects of the work that were fine to begin with.

Keep up the good work. This site is a great idea whose time has come. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been asked by agents/publishers for only a chapter-by-chapter synopsis for fictional works, generally very short and concise, I&#8217;m wrestling a little with structuring what is usually only a couple of sentences into a meaningful set of headings/subheadings per chapter. I see from earlier comments that I&#8217;m not alone in this. Could you please post a couple examples somewhere  in the  section so we can get a better sense of the structure and level of detail you&#8217;re looking for?</p>
<p>By the way, I love the site! I&#8217;m all about creating online efficiencies and knocking down roadblocks, which a lot of agents seem to have become these days. Connecting authors directly with editors is a great idea. </p>
<p>First read feedback from your team was quick, articulate, and included some thoughtful suggestions. I would recommend, however, that readers also drill into more actionable comments, ie: if greater character development is warranted, would the first reader suggest development through dialogue/action rather than description, that sort of thing. If engagement with charcters doesn&#8217;t come to the reader quickly, where might character development best be placed so as not to disrupt the flow? You get the idea. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not talking about writing the book for anyone, but broad editorial comments tend to steer younger, more insecure authors into the weeds, and can result in a ton of unnecessary work as well as undesirable edits that detract from aspects of the work that were fine to begin with.</p>
<p>Keep up the good work. This site is a great idea whose time has come. . .</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why is an outline required for novels? by Theodore Quester</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theodore Quester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the way you describe it you are giving an unfair advantage to writers who have not finished their novels (and have no business submitting) and an unfair burden on writers who have finished (and should not need to write anything more than a synopsis.)

No publisher is going to want unfinished manuscripts, unless the writer has already published. In which case they probably wouldn't need Creativebyline anyhow.

Wouldn't it be a better option to let writers upload the rest of their manuscript if finished (which would be useful for editors, as well) or just click on a button swearing the manuscript is complete? (and if not, let them post an outline instead)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the way you describe it you are giving an unfair advantage to writers who have not finished their novels (and have no business submitting) and an unfair burden on writers who have finished (and should not need to write anything more than a synopsis.)</p>
<p>No publisher is going to want unfinished manuscripts, unless the writer has already published. In which case they probably wouldn&#8217;t need Creativebyline anyhow.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be a better option to let writers upload the rest of their manuscript if finished (which would be useful for editors, as well) or just click on a button swearing the manuscript is complete? (and if not, let them post an outline instead)?</p>
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